When I was a hyperpreterist, I took the “paradigm” in a consistent way. Hyperpreterism doesn’t merely affect eschatology. Any hyperpreterist that claims it only affects eschatology is either lying or too new to realize what is going on. Anyhow, one area I was concerned about as a hyperpreterist was ecclesiology — how church functions within “full preterism”.
For example, if all ended in AD70, then the import of Jesus hand-picking apostles to guide the Church in His absence takes on new meaning. And the “elders” over the “bunkers” of congregations waiting for Christ’s return had a specific and time-limited purpose. This seems especially obvious when reading 1 Pet 5:1-4:
If we are CONSISTENT with the FP/hyperpret paradigm, then the preAD70 “elders” function was to:
(1) Feed the flock among them
(2) Oversee the local congregation [not for financial gain]
And when the Chief Shepherd, Jesus appeared, in AD70 per the FP/hyperpret, then those elders would receive a crown/reward for being stewards of the local congregations over which they were APPOINTED. Who appointed postAD70 “elders” and when if ever would they get their reward???
This means [in light of a consistent FP/hyperpreterism], whatever these gatherings are today, even by FP/hyperprets, they are not churches and the men over them are NOT PASTORS/”Elders”.
This is what I argued quite strongly for and was my debate with against then hyperpret Sam Frost. If anyone wants to know why Sam Frost and his protege Jason Bradfield hate me so much, it was because of this very issue. Frost was the foremost “pastor” within FP/hyperpreterism and I challenged him on it and he didn’t come out looking so hot. At one point he even told me privately on the phone that he was about to adopt the position of the preAD70 pastors only view. He even so much as admitted the conclusion in a no longer published article of his called “Observations“. I still have the quote:
Why is this an issue again? Because Sam Frost, now a year into his departure from the movement is once again stating MY POSITION:
This is why I consider Sam Frost to be a FRAUD. The man uses other people’s arguments and pretends they’re his own while yet berating the person who originally made the argument. He did the same thing with the “Covenant Creationist” FP/Hyperpreterists when he claimed he was refuting their arguments, he instead adopted them — so much so that at the time many readers were saying things like:
Frost has done this since I’ve known him; whether it be his “clarkianism” or his…um “whitefieldianism” — he takes other people’s arguments and acts like they are his.
Anyway, back to the issue. FP/hyperpreterism CAN’T have a polity of any sort. On what basis? Even Eph 4:11-16 seems to portend that the role or office of “pastor/elder” would cease along with the other roles such as apostles and prophets. That the purpose for this structure was for the “perfecting of the saints” — which most FP/hyperprets will tell us has already happened. (ie no more sanctification) It seems it was “til we all come into the unity of faith” — again something hyperprets say happened in AD70. So much so that Frost once said:
Hyperpret teacher Ward Fenley was known for telling people if they asked God to forgive them, then they didn’t really believe God has forgiven everything, and thus we shouldn’t ask God to forgive us.
CONSISTENT FP/Hyperpreterism is by its very nature anti-authoritarian and anti-collective. Its congregations “fail to grow” even under the leadership of men like Don Preston (ref). Hyperpreterism is merely a movement of hostile, bitter people who hate the Church and hate “churches” — even while some of them yet attend so-called “futurist” churches in efforts to overthrow them from within.